📜 Brand & Scale — From "buy at 3, sell at 5" to a brand people come back to
Sources: two Turkish YouTube talks, distilled into one ordered playbook. Ali Aslan — İzleyeceğiniz En Detaylı E-Ticaret Markalaşma Eğitimi (12 May 2026, 27 min). He says he has founded dozens of e-commerce brands in Türkiye and abroad and runs an agency that manages hundreds more (self-reported; see the profile in section 5). A teardown of four brands (Grüns, an unnamed men's testosterone brand he consulted for, AG1, IM8) around five pillars: offer, ads, popup, landing page, email/SMS. Gürkanzone — Premium Markalar Fiyat Savaşından Nasıl Kaçıyor? (29 Aug 2026, 36 min). Why a high price is a result of value, not a starting decision, and the order of operations from a single test order to a premium brand. Every step is read twice — once for a store, once for the app this journey builds. An app is a product sold to merchants; the mechanics are the same. Watched and distilled: September 2026.
0. Four rules the steps rest on (Ali Aslan)
- "Buy at 3, sell at 5" is over. Everyone knows how to dropship. In 2026 buyers compare more, marketplaces are one click away, and the only question that matters on your own site is: why would they buy from you?
- Three goals, in this order. A sales curve that does not need a bigger ad budget every day. A second, third, tenth purchase from every customer (LTV, not one order). The right product told to the right audience in the right words.
- Sell a pain you have lived. He wants a leather-goods brand because he carries leather every day; a rider should sell motorcycle gear. If neither you nor anyone around you has the problem, you will not sell it at scale. (Phase 5 of this map is the same rule for an app.)
- Your research shapes your brands. The categories he studies globally are the ones that grow in his portfolio. Vision comes before creatives and before adding products — "every product sells once money is spent; the marketing angle is what makes it a brand or leaves it at dropshipping."
1. Mindset: premium is a result, not a price (Gürkanzone)
The whole talk is one shift: a premium brand does not persuade the customer to pay more. It changes how the customer compares you to the cheap alternative. Once your product sits in the same mental bucket as a rival's, the cheaper one wins and you spend your life defending the price with discounts.
- The airport bag. Store A: a 900 ₺ bag, photos, dimensions, pocket count, a permanent "-40%" tag. Store B: the same bag at 4,500 ₺, but the page shows a frequent flyer's problems — laptop protected, shirts uncreased, fits the cabin bin, and what the brand does when something breaks. A sells a bag; B sells a calmer, more controlled trip for one specific person. Same object, different meaning, so the prices are not compared either.
- Dark photos and gold accents do not make you premium. They make you look like premium sites. The unanswered question is still: why should the customer pay you more? If there is no clear answer, expensive packaging and a warehouse full of stock do not make a premium brand.
- "Higher quality" is not a difference. Everyone says it; nobody sells "average quality". Quality only counts when it is visible and measurable: lasts longer (prove it), saves time (show which task and how much), reduces risk (warranty, reliable delivery, real after-sales). Premium is the set of outcomes the customer can understand and measure, not adjectives.
- What people actually pay for: less uncertainty, less effort, a lower chance of choosing wrong. "Will it look like the photo? Will it break in two months? Will anyone answer if it does?" A strong brand removes questions. That is why a 20% cost difference can carry a 3–4× price difference.
- Ads cannot hide a missing product forever. Good ads sell a bad product faster at first; then returns, complaints and a damaged reputation grow at the same speed. Marketing stops being growth and becomes a machine for distributing disappointment.
The three layers, in order
- Create a real value the customer cares about.
- Make that value visible.
- Attach the product to a bigger meaning in the customer's life — "this was made for people like me." A running shoe also says "I am disciplined"; a coffee machine turns a morning into a ritual. Premium brands do not hand out a new identity; they make visible the person the customer already wants to be.
Three hard questions about your customer
Demographics ("women 25–40, big city, upper-middle income") say who someone is, not why they buy. Two women with identical profiles buy the same product for opposite reasons; one loves a 70% discount, the other starts doubting the real price. Ask instead:
- How does my customer see themselves today?
- Who do they want to become?
- Who do they not want to look like? People buy to leave a group as much as to join one — the new business owner who does not want amateur-looking gear, the beginner runner escaping the "starts and quits" self, the parent who wants to be sure they chose right, not to show off.
A planner sold as "120 gsm paper, hard cover, 200 pages, 4 colours" is a notebook. The same planner designed for people who plan for three days and quit — simplified layout, short methods, copy about a messy life getting slightly better — is a system for keeping promises to yourself. The ads then show the Monday the plan collapsed, not the product; the customer sees themselves before they see the item.
Things that break the story
- "Family" is not community. Calling followers family builds nothing. Community is customers bonding with each other around a shared behaviour: a running brand's group runs and levelled programmes, a coffee brand teaching brewing until customers become connoisseurs. Then they invent their own words, repeat rituals and buy the next product to stay part of the world (Apple).
- A club for everyone means nothing to anyone. Say plainly who the brand is the right choice for. Some people will say "not for me" — that is the goal. The danger is everyone filing you under "not bad" and nobody saying "exactly for me".
- The founder story only counts if the founder's problem equals the customer's problem. Nobody cares about your childhood dream. If you have no story, the strongest story is how customers used the product: where they were before, what they struggled with, what changed after.
- Brand debt. A 2,000 ₺ product sold at 999 ₺ for 300 days a year costs 999 ₺; the crossed-out figure is decoration. Rolling 30% → 40% → 50% campaigns teach one lesson: never pay full price here. Cash comes in today, priced out of tomorrow's trust. Then the campaign ends and sales stop, because the product is now the discount. Discounts are fine with a reason that starts and ends (season end, bundles, loyal customers, a birthday). Fake countdowns and "last 2 left" with hundreds in stock are not sales psychology; they are gambling with trust.
- The weakest touchpoint sets the brand's value. Calm, trustworthy ads; then a site with a 5-minute countdown, a package thrown in a bag, no message when shipping slips, a support reply three days later. Every touchpoint whispers something. The package says "we thought about this detail too"; tracking updates say "we are watching until it reaches you"; easy returns say "we trust our product". Premium does not mean spending more everywhere. It means removing uncertainty and carelessness at the points the customer cares about.
- Not every product should go premium. In some categories the customer's priority is lowest price, fastest delivery, easiest access. Cheap-and-high-volume is an excellent model if the unit economics hold. Premium is not the higher league; it is a different game with different rules — cost, speed and volume win the value game; difference, trust, experience and consistency win the premium game. Ruin starts when you play both: "we are not for everyone" on Monday, "-70% for everyone" on Tuesday.
The order he would follow from zero
Right steps in the wrong order lose money: a custom box before the product is validated, a brand identity before knowing the customer, stock before the sales system works.
- Never fall in love with the product. Treat it as a hypothesis. Sell it in single orders, try different ad messages, and look for a repeating pattern, not revenue: which problem do they buy it for, which ad converts, what do they ask before buying, what do they love on unboxing, which unmet expectation causes returns.
- Do not chase everyone. Pick the strongest use-case from the tests. Students liked the travel bag, but 2–3-day business travellers bought most — position for them: no checked luggage, laptop safe, organised on short trips. A brand gets stronger by meaning more to one person, not by widening.
- Improve the product in the direction customers tell you. Marketing's job is to carry "why they buy" and "where it hurts" back to product: reinforce the laptop sleeve, swap the zipper, show which cabin sizes it fits. Now it is no longer a supplier item with a logo; it is a solution shaped by one customer's feedback. Real premium starts here — not in expensive details nobody notices.
- Turn every claim into proof. "Durable" → show the test. "Waterproof" → show it in use. "Cabin size" → publish the dimensions. Every frequent question becomes content; every objection becomes a section on the product page; real customer experiences replace adjectives. A premium brand does not ask for blind belief; it makes believing easy.
- Build the identity from shared customer behaviour, not from cool words at a desk: what they value, which problem they hate, how they see themselves, what change they describe. The bag brand sells being prepared and in control; the ads show the person at the carousel, in the hotel room, in the meeting without creased clothes — the product's result, never the product alone.
- Carry the promise into operations. Site, ads and support speak with one voice. Delivery time is stated, return terms are not hidden, a problem finds someone who takes responsibility, the package is not the most expensive box but never a random bag either.
- Grow in controlled batches. After single orders prove the product: 20–50 units, faster delivery, better QC, lower cost. Do not fill a warehouse after one good ad week; wait until CAC, return rate, profit per unit and sales velocity are consistent for a while. His April brand went 10 → 20 → 50 → 200 → 1,000–2,000 units, reordering weekly. Premium price and premium stock are earned inside the model, step by step.
Brand-health questions (beyond ROAS and CAC, which still matter): do customers buy at full price; is the return rate rising and why; do they reorder; is branded search growing; do they recommend you; what share of sales depends on running a campaign? An ad that converts today but attracts discount hunters or sets a false expectation kills the second order. Judge ads by the memory they leave, not only by the day's revenue.
The logo-off test. Open your site, hide the logo, the brand name and the About page. Show a few people only the product, photos, message, proof, pricing and experience, and ask: why could this be more expensive than its rivals? Similar answers with no prompting → a clear difference exists. "Design / quality / packaging / probably the brand" → no shared value yet. Nobody finds a reason → your first problem is not a logo, a box or a bigger ad budget; it is designing why the customer should pay you more.
- App: every line above holds for a Shopify app. The comparison frame is "another €19 app" unless the listing shows the merchant's Tuesday problem. Brand debt is the permanent "50% off first 3 months". The weakest touchpoint is the support reply time. The logo-off test is the App Store listing with the app name hidden.
2. The steps (Ali Aslan)
Step 1 — Pick the audience, then the pain you can name
Not "men / women / athletes" — that targeting stopped working, for him too. Ask: who has the problem this product ends, and what does that problem feel like on a Tuesday?
- Store: list every life situation your product enters. A greens gummy enters "parent worried about a picky eater", "someone losing weight", "gut trouble", "athlete recovering".
- App: list the merchant situations, not the merchant sizes. "Subscription churn after the third box", "Plus store with a migration next quarter", not "SMB vs Plus".
Step 2 — One product, one funnel per audience
Grüns runs six funnels for the same jar. The home page introduces the brand and its variants with stats, and does not push a purchase. Each funnel page speaks to one audience's pain: the kids page is about parental worry, not about the product; the weight-loss page and the gut-health page sell the identical gummy to different fears; a fourth version targets athletes.
- Rule: the product page explains the product; the funnel page explains the person's problem. Turkish e-commerce still puts everything on the product page. Don't.
- Store: ship the general home page first, then one landing page per audience from Step 1. Ads point at the funnel page, never at the product page.
- App: one App Store listing, plus one landing page per merchant pain. Cold outreach links to the
pain page. (The
/switchpage on this site is exactly this pattern.)
Step 3 — Inside one audience, test which pain converts
The testosterone brand was one audience (men) with three candidate pains: sex life, muscle, or weight. Three pages, same product, paid traffic split, watch conversion. Step 2 tests audiences; this step tests pain points inside an audience. When the page hits the real pain, price, shipping time and "how is it made" stop mattering.
- Done when: you can say which single pain outconverted the rest, with the number.
Step 4 — The offer, and the discount that gets noticed
Discounts no longer carry meaning: 10%, 15%, 50%, 70% all read the same. He still discounts, but with odd numbers — 52%, 23%, 81% — because an unfamiliar number registers subconsciously. Rotate them across Meta ads, Google ads and the popup.
- Trap he fell into: changing the discount changes the margin. Keep price, discount and profitability in one sheet and update all three together.
- App: the same applies to trial length and founding-member pricing. "23% off for the first 30 merchants" beats "20% off". Then check the margin against your support time.
Step 5 — Proof on the product page: videos with a label
Grüns' product page has a row of short videos, each with a one-phrase caption above it — value, benefits, ingredients — so the visitor knows what they will get before pressing play. Don't post generic UGC; every video has to carry a fact. His own conversion rate rose visibly once he added labelled UGC to product pages.
- Food / supplement rule: say how it is made, what is inside and who uses it — on the page, in the emails, everywhere. Buyers of anything they eat want certainty about ingredients.
- App: the "videos" are 20-second screen recordings labelled setup, what merchants see, the number it moved. Merchant quotes with store names are your ingredients list.
Step 6 — Own the data: email is a channel, not a newsletter
The metric his agency watches first: how many people are in the list? Brands chase Meta and Google budgets and forget the channel with zero ad spend, addressed to people who already know them. His Turkish brands make email compete with paid ads, on Klaviyo.
- Cadence: not weekly, not "3–4 times a month". Daily or every other day. The brand he showed sent about 6 emails on 8 April, 4 on 9 April, 3–4 on 10 April. Some will unsubscribe; don't cross into harassment; but stay in front of the buyer.
- Welcome flow: Grüns sends five emails to a new contact: the discount, how it differs from competitors, what is inside, the community around it, then the ask.
- Daily campaigns to buyers also introduce other products; quality of data decides the angle (an adult who bought for themselves can be shown the kids' version; a parent gets content on why a child benefits from a daily routine).
- Automations he builds for every brand: added to cart but no purchase; reached checkout, typed payment details, left; bought two of five items in the cart. Each is a rule, each is a flow.
- App: a merchant who installed and did not finish setup, one who hit the paywall, one whose trial ends in three days. Same three flows. The list is every install email, ever.
Step 7 — SMS: short, factual, occasionally funny
Four SMS he showed, each one fact: what is inside; how it compares to a named rival; the benefits; how it differs from the rest of the category. His own campaign used humour to stick — a "Day 6" message with a muscular emoji next to a stick-thin one.
- App: SMS is rarely right for merchants; the equivalent is the one-line in-app banner or a Slack/community ping. Same rule: one fact per message.
Step 8 — Put a face on it
IM8 (David Beckham's supplement brand) is founder marketing done in the open: the founder is the creative. AG1 wins on ad volume and creative variety. Be the face of your own brand — "the founder of this brand is me" — and use yourself in the ads.
- App: this site is the founder marketing. The journal is the ad creative.
Step 9 — Spy on the brands you admire, on a schedule
- Keep a separate email address subscribed to every competitor and every brand whose marketing you envy. The flows in this talk all came from that inbox.
- Open their Meta Ad Library and count: how many ads are active, how long each has run, which months they scale, and whether the creatives are static, dynamic or UGC.
- App: subscribe to the top ten apps in your category with a dev store, install them, read their onboarding emails and their App Store review replies.
Step 10 — Learn by running, buy help when stuck
Try your first store yourself; YouTube already holds most of the information. Pay for training or mentorship only once a brand is live and earning and you hit a wall — then the investment pays for itself. Before that, it is buying information you could have found.
3. Applied to this business: a software product sold to merchants
This journey sells software, not gummies. Three things are on sale today: the Zero-Churn Switch app (flat $299/mo subscription billing for Shopify, migration done for you, five founding slots at a price locked for life), the VIP membership around the build, and the journal itself, which is the ad creative. Every rule above maps onto them without changing a word of the logic.
The comparison frame (Gürkanzone → the listing)
- Default frame: "another subscription app, $299 vs Recharge's $99 starter". In that bucket the cheaper one wins and every sales call is a price defence.
- Our frame: "the percentage you stop paying." Recharge Pro is $499 + 1% + $0.19 per transaction; the page does the math on the merchant's own invoice. The product is not an app, it is the end of a tax that grows with your success. That is the 4,500 ₺ bag: same category, different meaning, so the price is not compared against a $99 plan.
- Logo-off test for SaaS: hide the app name on the listing and the
/switchpage. Ask three merchants why this could cost more than Seal or Skio. Expected shared answer: "flat price locked for life plus someone else does the migration". If they say "nicer UI", the difference is not visible yet.
Audiences and pains → one landing page per pain (Ali Aslan steps 1–3)
The outreach CSV already segments the 1–2★ reviewers of Recharge, Seal, Skio and Subscription Payments. The pains in those reviews are the funnels:
| Pain heard in reviews | Funnel page and first line | Proof that page needs |
|---|---|---|
| Fees grow with revenue ("over 10% of our recurring revenue") | "Every dollar Recharge skims, you keep" — the invoice calculator | Their own numbers, no estimates |
| Locked in, can't move subscribers | "Leave in 14 days, every subscriber reconciled" | Dry-run import report, refund-from-our-pocket guarantee |
| Support is a bot, days to reply | "A human answers, and it's the person who built it" | Reply-time log published in the journal |
| Billing bugs (double charges, wrong shipping) | "Built on Shopify's native contracts, your data stays in your store" | Reconciliation checklist, changelog |
Step 3 is the outreach itself: same product, four DM angles, count replies and deposits per angle. The kill line in the playbook (3+ deposits go, 0–1 after 250 sends kill) is the pain-point test.
The offer and brand debt (step 4 + Gürkanzone)
- What is already right: "$299 flat, locked for life, public price $499 after five" is a discount with a reason that starts and ends. It is the opposite of brand debt. Never turn it into a rolling "50% off this month". If a merchant hesitates, add proof or scope (a longer guarantee, migration of a second store), never a lower number.
- Odd numbers: "5 slots" reads better than "10". A $500 deposit reads better than $499; keep the deposit round and the monthly price odd.
- VIP: one trial (7 days), one reason. Founding-member price "locked forever" is the same mechanic; don't dilute it with coupon codes.
Proof (step 5 + Gürkanzone step 4)
- Videos on the listing and on
/switch, each labelled with one phrase: the migration dry run, what your subscriber sees, the invoice before and after, a support reply in 40 minutes. - Every objection from the reviews becomes a section on the page: "what if a subscriber is double billed?" (refund plus 12 months free), "can I leave?" (native contracts, yes, in a day).
- Journal entries with real numbers are the ingredients list. Merchants buying billing software want to know what is inside exactly as supplement buyers do.
Own the list (step 6)
- The list is every prospect emailed, every install email, every VIP email, every journal subscriber. Count it weekly; it is the first metric on the adventure card, not installs.
- Welcome flow, five emails to a new install or VIP: what you stopped paying, how the migration works, what merchants who switched say, the community around the build, the ask (book the call or finish setup).
- Three automations: installed but did not connect a store; reached the deposit page and left; trial ending in 3 days. Then daily or every-other-day journal emails to the whole list; the journal is the campaign calendar, one entry, one email.
- Merchant SMS is wrong; the in-app banner and the private channel are the SMS. One fact each.
Identity, community, founder (Gürkanzone + step 8)
- Who it is for: subscription brands past ~300 subscribers who refuse to pay a percentage of their revenue to a billing tool and want a person, not a bot, on the other end. Who it is not for: a store with 20 subscribers that needs free, and an enterprise that wants an SLA and a CSM. Say both on the page; the "not for me" from the wrong merchant is the goal.
- The three questions: merchants see themselves as operators drowning in tools; they want to be the founder who runs a lean, profitable stack; they do not want to look like the store that got locked in and taxed. The copy speaks to the third.
- Community is merchants helping merchants, not a Discord called "family": founding merchants' catalogs set the roadmap (already promised), a shared migration checklist, a monthly call where they compare retention numbers.
- Founder marketing is the site. The journal, the numbers, the Fog Dragon. IM8 puts Beckham in the ad; this puts the builder's log in the ad. Do not hire a faceless brand voice.
Operations set the price (Gürkanzone step 6)
The weakest touchpoint for SaaS is support reply time and migration day. "14 days, white glove, refund from our pocket" is the promise; the operation has to repeat it under pressure: a reply-time target published on the page and measured in the journal, a migration runbook, a status page. A single three-day silence undoes the flat-price story.
Controlled batches (Gürkanzone step 7 + Ali Aslan step 10)
- Five founding merchants by hand (the "single orders"). Then 20 at the public price with the runbook. Only then automate the migration and open the App Store listing wide.
- Do not build the pause/swap/B2B roadmap before a deposit asks for it. Stock in SaaS is features nobody paid for.
- Wait for CAC, churn, support hours per merchant and trial-to-paid to be steady for a while before raising spend.
Brand-health metrics for this model
| Question | SaaS metric | Where it is logged |
|---|---|---|
| Do they buy at full price? | Share of paid merchants on the public $499, not a founding deal | Billing mirror |
| Is the return rate rising? | Churn within 60 days of migration, and why | Journal, monthly |
| Do they reorder? | Renewal after month 12, VIP yearly renewals | Billing mirror |
| Is branded search growing? | "zero churn switch" queries, direct visits to /switch |
Analytics |
| Do they recommend you? | Installs and deposits that came from another merchant | Outreach CSV reply source |
| How much depends on campaigns? | Deposits that needed a discount to close | Outreach CSV |
Spying, on a schedule (step 9)
Install the top ten subscription apps on a dev store with a separate inbox. Read their onboarding
emails, their trial-end emails and their replies to 1★ reviews. The review pages already scraped in
outreach/ are the Meta Ad Library of this category: count active listings, feature cadence, and
which pains keep repeating month after month.
4. Use cases: brands founded 2020 or later, read for the mechanics
Only brands founded in 2020 or later with public numbers. Revenue marked est. is a journalist's or a database's estimate, not a company disclosure. Researched 4 September 2026; sources at the end.
Grüns — greens gummies, US, founded 2023
| When | Milestone |
|---|---|
| Aug 2023 | First sale; $1.8M pre-seed |
| ~Oct 2024 | Profitable in month 14, DTC only |
| Dec 2024 – Apr 2025 | Sprouts, Target (1,600 stores), Walmart (1,900); ~60 staff |
| May 2025 | $35M Series B at a $500M valuation, "nine-figure ARR" |
| Aug 2025 | ~$300M annualised revenue |
| Apr 2026 | Unilever acquires for ~$1.2B, closed 1 June 2026 |
- Moves: one product, 99+ landing pages matched to the ad angle (gut health, GLP-1 support, fibre, "vs green powder", perimenopause); 776 active Meta ads in one 30-day window; six customer avatars, each with its own page, testimonials and creative. Post-purchase stack: "3 pouches for the price of 2" on a 12-week subscription, then a second one-click upsell, AOV $40.80 → $86.50. The founder grows "as fast as the world lets me at my CAC ceiling."
- Copy: this is Ali Aslan's Step 2 at scale. One hero SKU, a page per pain, the commit-upsell on the thank-you page. For the app: one listing, a page per merchant pain, the annual plan on the welcome page.
IM8 — longevity supplement, Hong Kong/US, launched Nov–Dec 2024
| When | Milestone |
|---|---|
| Dec 2024 | Month-one revenue $581K |
| Nov 2025 | $100M ARR in 11 months |
| Jan 2026 | $108M first-year ARR, 420K customers, 80% on subscription, 45 countries |
| Q1 2026 | $33.8M quarterly revenue; 2026 guidance $210–220M |
| 2026 | General Catalyst commits $1B growth funding |
- Moves: $150–200K/day on Meta and Google, ~1,500 concurrent Meta ads, 50 landing-page variants segmented by GLP-1, energy, digestion, ADHD, longevity. Guardrails: CAC $130, AOV $110 → $233 after the quarterly plan, 24-month LTV ~$480, 3–4-month payback. Equity-holding ambassadors (Beckham, Sabalenka, Giannis) plus clinical-trial and batch-test transparency as the trust layer.
- Copy: the payback rule and the published proof, not the celebrities. Founder marketing in the purest form: Beckham is the creative.
Jolie Skin Co — filtered showerhead, US, launched Dec 2021
| When | Milestone |
|---|---|
| 2022 | $4.2M sales, profitable, ~80% on subscription, 3% churn, 3 full-time staff |
| 2023 | ~$28M |
| 2024 | $40M+, 90% DTC, salon doors 100 → 1,000, 70 Ulta doors |
| Target | $100M by 2027, double-digit EBITDA |
- Moves: packaging designed for unboxing (mint-green wrench, labelled tape): 4,000 UGC pieces in year one, top TikTok 2.6M likes. Gifting instead of paid influencers: 7 of the first 10 gifted creators posted unprompted. A $148 head plus $33/quarter filter subscription as the LTV engine.
- Copy: design the box for the camera; gift before you pay; the consumable refill is the subscription. For the app: the migration report is the unboxing; make it screenshot-worthy.
RYZE Superfoods — mushroom coffee, US, launched Mar 2020
| When | Milestone |
|---|---|
| 2022 | ~$18M revenue, 30K+ customers |
| 2024 | >$200M (Forbes est.) |
| 2025 | >$300M (Forbes est.); explored a sale |
| Jan 2026 | Target (1,900+ stores); 4.6M monthly site visits; 4,133 active Meta ads |
- Moves: problem-first hooks at volume ("Tired of coffee making you anxious?"), 1,000+ concurrent creatives, affiliate reviews recycled into ads. A private "How I RYZE" Facebook group, 93K (2023) → 365K+ members. 20% subscriber discount, unboxing gifts, 30-day guarantee.
- Caveat: Forbes reports investor concern about churn and thin margins. Copy: the customer group from day one; every review becomes an ad. Gürkanzone's community test: members talk to each other.
Bubble Skincare — Gen Z skincare, US, launched Nov 2020
| When | Milestone |
|---|---|
| Jun 2021 | 3,900 Walmart stores in month 8 |
| 2023 | $20–30M est., 9,000+ doors, ~5,000 teens giving feedback |
| Nov 2025 | $100M+ annual sales, 17,000+ stores, 100K+ community members, 10-person community team |
| Jun 2026 | ~$170M est. annual sales; founder still majority owner |
- Moves: ~10,000 teen interviews before launch; ambassadors vote on names, packaging and formulas with a 90% approval threshold to ship. Retail in month 8 on purpose, because 80% of Gen Z buys skincare in-store.
- Copy: interview 100 customers before building (Phase 5), then let a small group name things.
Vacation — sunscreen, US, launched Jun 2021
| When | Milestone |
|---|---|
| 2023 | +200% YoY, Ulta |
| 2024 | ~$40M revenue; 15K waitlist for a launch sold out in 3 days |
| 2025 | Profitable, ~$80M projected, 1.2% US sunscreen share; VMG minority deal at $210M valuation |
| Jun 2026 | Sephora.com |
- Moves: a fictional 1980s "Vacation Inc." as the brand world (business-card generator: 10K sign-ups in 2 days; scratch-and-sniff print ad); 80% of the hero SKU sold through TikTok Shop with only 14K followers; waitlists for every drop.
- Copy: pick a world, not a vibe; one hero product built for video; waitlist every launch. The Fog Dragon and the quest map are this site's world.
Create Wellness — creatine gummies, US, founded Dec 2022
| When | Milestone |
|---|---|
| Dec 2022 | Launched to the founders' Twitter audience: 181 orders, $11K |
| Mar 2023 | $172K/month; CAC $35–45, AOV $57 |
| Aug 2024 | $10M+ ARR with ~5 people; $5M Series A |
| Mar 2026 | $20M Series B (Unilever Ventures among investors); team 5 → 25 |
- Moves: the founders' own audience as the launch channel, Meta ads only once CAC and AOV were known; free seeding to creators above 25K followers; ran to $10M ARR before hiring.
- Copy: launch to the audience you already have, measure CAC in month one, hire late. The closest analogue to this journey: the journal is the audience, the app launches into it.
Also seen, weaker data: Nutr (nut-milk machine, 2021) pre-sold hardware through Indiegogo and Wefunder before buying inventory, ~$1M in debt reported. Javy Coffee (2020) reports $5M+ on TikTok Shop in a couple of months, overall revenue unverified. No Turkish or Balkan DTC brand founded 2020+ with public numbers turned up in four searches; By Far (Bulgaria) dates from 2016.
Pattern across all seven: one hero product, a page per pain, subscription or refill as the LTV engine, proof and community before retail, and a CAC ceiling stated out loud.
5. People to model
Each profile says what the person actually operates, what to take, and what to watch for. Follow the operators for mechanics; treat course sales as the business they are.
Alex Hormozi — the offer, the volume, the price
- Operates: Gym Launch (2016) and Prestige Labs (2018), 66% sold to American Pacific Group in 2021 for $46.2M; ALAN (2020), sold 2021; Acquisition.com (2020), whose site claims a portfolio above $250M annual revenue (self-reported); ACQ Ventures (July 2025: Stan, Otis AI, Caseflood, Carry, JOON); the Skool investment (January 2024, terms never published). YouTube 4.46M subscribers and Instagram 4.9M as of 3 September 2026.
- Books: $100M Offers (July 2021), $100M Leads (August 2023), $100M Money Models (August 2025; Guinness record for fastest-selling non-fiction, 2,917,443 copies on launch day).
- Frameworks that map onto this scroll:
- Value Equation — Value = (Dream outcome × Perceived likelihood) ÷ (Time delay × Effort). Software wins on the denominator; price on the numerator. Gürkanzone's "less uncertainty, less effort" is the same equation in Turkish.
- Grand Slam Offer — starving crowd, value stack, risk-reversing guarantee, honest scarcity, premium price; make it incomparable rather than cheaper. The Zero-Churn Switch page is built on it.
- Core Four — warm outreach, content, cold outreach, paid ads; then lead-getters (referrals, affiliates, agencies). Ali Aslan's five pillars are the paid-ads and content quadrants filled in.
- More → Better → New — do more of what works, then improve it, only then add something new.
- Volume is the problem — the Rule of 100: 100 outreach messages, or 100 minutes of content, or $100 of ads, every day. The outreach playbook's 25 sends a day is a quarter of it.
- Charge more — premium price funds a better product and attracts better customers; cutting price is the vicious cycle. Gürkanzone's "brand debt" is the same warning.
- Give away the secrets, sell the implementation — this site exactly: the journal is free, the migration is paid.
- Money Models — attraction, upsell, downsell (change terms, not price), continuity; acquisition should pay for itself within 30 days. The $500 deposit is the attraction offer; the flat plan is continuity.
- Take: the offer and outreach math. Watch for: every portfolio number is founder-stated; no audited figures exist, and the net-worth claims online are blog estimates.
Ali Aslan — funnels per pain, email as a channel (Türkiye)
- Operates (self-reported on aliaslan.tr): ICON Perde (custom curtains, Istanbul, live store), Gemlikzade (olive oil, "in development"), Matesis (e-commerce agency), Ajans Akademisi (agency mentorship), CoUGC (UGC production). The "dozens of brands abroad" line in his video is not supported by anything public.
- Channels: YouTube @AliAslanYoutube, 1,810 subscribers and 65 videos as of 3 September 2026; the video above had 447 views. Instagram @aliaslancom. The mentorship link in the video does not resolve.
- Ideas: brand perception, offer structure, CX and repeat-purchase systems fail before ads do; source from manufacturers, build a brand; funnels per audience and per pain; email daily.
- Take: sections 0 and 2 of this scroll. Watch for: a tiny, flat audience; the video feeds a mentorship funnel; brand claims are self-published.
Gürkan Ordueri, "Gürkanzone" — premium is a result (Netherlands, Turkish content)
- Operates: RoaSell (the 28-day kit sold at the end of the video), Fellowlemon, ARspar, ARtonar, Revendify; says he has worked with Lamborghini and Inkbox. Position: sell on your own Shopify site rather than marketplaces; agency and SaaS around e-commerce.
- Channels: YouTube @gurkanzone, 311,000 subscribers and 572 videos as of 3 September 2026.
- Ideas: section 1 of this scroll: the comparison frame, brand debt, the weakest touchpoint, the seven-step order from single orders to batches, the logo-off test.
- Take: the order of operations. Watch for: Şikayetvar lists several refund complaints on a $2,000 four-month programme sold as "Gürkanzone | Roasell".
Ecom Luka — the Bulgarian-market operator (Bulgaria, Bulgarian content)
- Spelled Luka, not Luca, and Bulgarian-speaking, not Turkish. Says he opened his first store in late 2015 and now runs several Bulgarian stores, a dropshipping business abroad and a US brand, with "$400,000+ a year on Facebook ads" at positive ROAS. No store or brand names are public.
- Channels: YouTube @EcomLuka, 17,000 subscribers and 133 videos as of 3 September 2026, flat over the last 30 days; ecomluka.com; a Discord community.
- Ideas: paid-ads-first launch, then squeeze the traffic with email/SMS flows and post-purchase upsells; how a store has to look to convert; Bulgarian-market cases ("13,000 лв profit in 13 days").
- Sells: eCom Masterclass, 8 modules and about 89 lessons, 799 лв (list 1,199 лв; another snippet showed 1,899 лв, so the anchor moves).
- Take: a local-EU reference with screenshots for small-market stores. Watch for: unnamed brands, a stagnant channel, and the course as the business.
Engin Tezcan — positioning with words (Türkiye)
- Not a dropshipping educator. Advertising strategist since 2005, founded the Capon brand-positioning agency in 2015, taught at Okan University 2011–13. Appears as a guest on e-commerce channels ("when should an e-export seller start investing in brand?").
- Channels: the newsletter at engintezcan.com (7,500+ subscribers per the site), X @engintezcan_en. No meaningful YouTube channel of his own.
- Ideas: "gayrinizami" (unconventional) positioning: own one word in the customer's head instead of outspending; Kelimelerle Konumlandırma; a personal-branding playbook.
- Take: the best positioning thinker of the group for the identity part of Gürkanzone's layer 3, with no course funnel attached. Watch for: agency-side theory, not an operator with a P&L.
Mert Tanciğer — volume and e-export (Türkiye)
- Founder of E-İhracat Türkiye (2018), an e-export training and consulting company; the channel mixes e-export with economy commentary and a live stream every Sunday. Company sites claim 50,000+ students and "over $100M export" for companies he advises (self-reported).
- Channels: YouTube @merttanciger, 255,000 subscribers and 1,879 videos as of 3 September 2026, subscribers up 255% year over year; about 530 Shorts a year.
- Ideas: earn in dollars from Türkiye; Amazon arbitrage as entry, private label as the goal; "build it from zero" live streams.
- Take: the volume mindset and e-export mechanics. Watch for: Şikayetvar shows 27 complaints and an 11/100 rating for the company, including programme fees of 145,000 ₺ and $1,700 with refund and transparency disputes in 2025–26. Course sales are the core business.
Also worth following
- Mustafa Büyükçağlayan (US-based, Turkish content): @mustafabuyukcaglayan, 35,600 subscribers and flagged as a breakout channel in September 2026; founder of Ecomup.co; builds his own brands and consults for 30+ (names not public). No complaints found.
- Mehmet Tek: @mehmettek, 199,000 subscribers; founder of Rexven (sourcing SaaS); marketplace roadmaps, explicitly against "get rich while you sleep". Şikayetvar has entries for a 36,000 ₺ premium subscription (October 2025).
- Tahir Otlu: 26,600 subscribers, three books including Markanı Yarat (2024); small, brand-focused.
How to use this list. Operators with a live store and a P&L (Ordueri, Aslan, Luka) for mechanics; Tezcan for positioning; Tanciğer and Hormozi for volume. Before paying any of them, apply Ali Aslan's own rule from Step 10: run first, buy help when stuck.
6. Read as a builder: where the money is
| Step | Store metric it moves | App metric it moves | Phase on the map |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1–3 Audience & pain funnels | Conversion rate per landing page | Install rate from outreach | 5, 8 |
| 4 Offer | Margin × conversion | Trial → paid | 7 |
| 5 Labelled proof | Product-page conversion | Listing → install | 8 |
| 6 Email flows | Repeat purchase, LTV | Activation, trial conversion, churn | 6, 7 |
| 7 SMS / in-app | Recovery of abandoned carts | Setup completion | 6 |
| 8 Founder face | CAC | CAC | this site |
| 9 Spying | Ad efficiency | Positioning | 5 |
Both talks land on one sentence: the second sale is the brand. Every step above either lowers the cost of the first sale or raises the odds of the second.
7. Done when
The logo-off test passes: three people give the same reason your product could cost more.
Two funnel pages live for the same product, each aimed at a different pain, with a conversion number for each.
A five-email welcome flow sending, plus the three abandonment automations.
One repeat purchase (or one trial-to-paid conversion) you can trace to an email, not to an ad.
A separate inbox with at least ten competitor newsletters in it, and one Ad Library note per rival.
Sources
Videos
- Ali Aslan, İzleyeceğiniz En Detaylı E-Ticaret Markalaşma Eğitimi, 12 May 2026 — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ72F17W0FU
- Gürkanzone, Premium Markalar Fiyat Savaşından Nasıl Kaçıyor?, 29 Aug 2026 — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0RJR5wCLc
Brands
- Grüns: Food Stack, 16 Apr 2026 — https://thefoodstack.substack.com/p/12-billion-in-32-months-how-gruns · Modern Retail, 12 May 2025 — https://www.modernretail.co/operations/the-approach-that-helped-gruns-hit-a-500-million-valuation-in-2-years-and-land-at-sprouts-target-and-walmart/ · Forbes, 10 Apr 2026 — https://www.forbes.com/sites/chloesorvino/2026/04/10/with-a-12-billion-sale-to-unilever-grns-founder-mints-a-fortune/ · Funnel of the Week, 18 May 2026 — https://blog.funneloftheweek.com/p/the-secret-behind-gr-ns-99-landing-pages-offer-stack · Segwise — https://segwise.ai/blog/gruns-ad-strategy-customer-avatar-playbook
- IM8: TNGE, 2 Jun 2026 — https://tnge.substack.com/p/the-supplement-brand-that-grows-faster-than-anyone-else · BeautyMatter, 15 Jan 2026 — https://beautymatter.com/articles/david-beckham-backed-im8-off-to-108-million-first-year-start · Entrepreneur, 13 Apr 2026 — https://www.entrepreneur.com/building-a-business/david-beckhams-supplement-brand-is-doing-10-million-a-month · NutritionInsight — https://www.nutritioninsight.com/news/david-beckham-im8-longevity-supplements-prenetics.html
- Jolie: Modern Retail, 17 Jan 2023 — https://www.modernretail.co/marketing/dtc-briefing-how-jolie-reached-4-2m-in-sales-its-first-year-while-staying-profitable/ · Beauty Independent, 2 Dec 2024 — https://www.beautyindependent.com/filtered-showerhead-brand-jolie-ulta-beauty/ · eCommerce Innovators podcast — https://ecommerceinnovators.buzzsprout.com/2292866/episodes/15264786-ryan-babenzien-growing-jolie-from-0-to-28m-in-revenue-in-2-years
- RYZE: Forbes, 9 Jan 2026 — https://www.forbes.com/sites/chloesorvino/2026/01/09/mushroom-coffee-maker-ryze-could-be-the-next-billion-dollar-drink-or-a-warning-of-a-bubble/ · BrandSearch, 28 Feb 2026 — https://brandsearch.co/blog/ryze-mushroom-coffee-growth-case-study · PATI Group, 23 Mar 2025 — https://www.patigroup.com/p/ryze-mushroom-coffee-how-two-harvard
- Bubble: BeautyMatter, 7 May 2023 — https://beautymatter.com/articles/bubble · BeautyMatter, 19 Nov 2025 — https://beautymatter.com/articles/bubble-skincares-100-million-formula · Beauty Independent, 11 Jun 2026 — https://www.beautyindependent.com/bubble-founder-shai-eisenman-gen-alpha-beauty-fatigue-not-selling/
- Vacation: Glossy, 5 Apr 2024 — https://www.glossy.co/pop/glossy-pop-newsletter-what-vacation-did-next-the-3-year-old-brand-continues-to-shake-up-up-the-sunscreen-category/ · Beauty Independent, 23 Dec 2025 — https://www.beautyindependent.com/vacation-hires-investment-bank-minority-stake-deal/ · TNGE, 9 Jul 2026 — https://tnge.substack.com/p/the-210m-brand-that-said-no-to-sephora
- Create Wellness: Datastream, 18 Aug 2024 — https://datastream.substack.com/p/how-creatine-gummies-grew-to-10-million · BusinessWire, 3 Sep 2024 — https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20240903593967/en/ · PR Newswire, 30 Mar 2026 — https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/create-wellness-announces-significant-growth-capital-round-from-leading-cpg-investors-302728422.html
- Nutr: Food Republic, 17 Jan 2025 — https://www.foodrepublic.com/1765246/nutr-shark-tank-now/ · Javy: Saral, 11 Jan 2024 — https://www.getsaral.com/academy/javy-coffees-influencer-marketing-breakdown
People
- Hormozi: acquisition.com — https://www.acquisition.com/ · IMAP deal page — https://www.imap.com/en/transactions/advised-gym-launch-and-prestige-labs-on-its-recapitalization-with-american-pacific-group~t · ACQ Ventures, PR Newswire, 8 Jul 2025 — https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/acquisitioncom-launches-acq-ventures-to-partner-with-visionary-tech-founders-and-entrepreneurs-302500130.html · Skool announcement, 10 Jan 2024 — https://x.com/AlexHormozi/status/1745159777087283539 · Guinness — https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/78599-fastest-selling-non-fiction-book · More→Better→New — https://x.com/AlexHormozi/status/1555391939238830081 · Rule of 100 — https://x.com/AlexHormozi/status/1973761186681241703 · Stan ARR, HubSpot — https://www.hubspot.com/startups/stan-increases-arr-over-8x
- Ali Aslan: https://aliaslan.tr/ · https://www.youtube.com/@AliAslanYoutube · https://iconperde.com/
- Gürkan Ordueri: https://www.gurkanzone.com/ · https://www.youtube.com/@gurkanzone · Şikayetvar — https://www.sikayetvar.com/gurkanzone
- Ecom Luka: https://ecomluka.com/ · https://ecomluka.com/ecom-masterclass/ · https://www.youtube.com/@EcomLuka
- Engin Tezcan: https://engintezcan.com/engin-tezcan-kimdir/ · https://caponajans.com/engin-tezcan-kimdir/ · merak. listesi ep. 250 — https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/meraklistesi/episodes/250--Marka-Olmak-ya-da-Olamamak---Engin-Tezcan-e2ocr7b
- Mert Tanciğer: https://eihracatturkiye.com/pages/hakkimizda · Şikayetvar — https://www.sikayetvar.com/e-ihracat-turkiye · https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnAxySZ049LOK7DLQbYofeQ
- Others: https://www.ecomup.co/hakkimizda · https://www.sikayetvar.com/rexven · https://www.youtube.com/@mehmettek
- Channel statistics: vidIQ, 3 September 2026.